Note to IE Users: Your whining has been noted
I've caught a bit of flack over the flaky behavior of the Gazette's blogroll when viewed in Microsoft's Inept Explorer™, so I've made it my burning quest to track down and delete every copy of IE on the planet. No, actually, I don't have that kind of time. What I've really done is tried a couple of experimental tweaks in the Gazette's style sheet and the results are somewhat promising.
If you're using IE (especially in Windows...as if there are any Mac users still in thrall to IE), take a gander at the blogroll and let me know if the psychedelic effect is still noticeable. It's gone on my little IBM running IE 6, but I'll feel better if I get some independent confirmation.
What did I do? I took out the negative bottom margin on the block-level link markup. I was using the negative margin to try to bring the links closer together, albeit without much success. Whatever coding Blogrolling.com serves up with the blogroll links, it doesn't respond well to CSS. There's probably something in the Blogrolling preferences that provides a better fix, but I haven't stumbled across it yet. Anyway, it appears that IE chokes on the negative margins, while most real browsers handle them without a hitch.
So, how about it (Shannon)? Any improvement?
Cool...thanks, Bert!
Posted by: Eric at September 16, 2005 09:15 PMMidland, you are A-OK for take off.
10-9-8-7...
Posted by: Cowtown Pattie at September 17, 2005 08:32 AMA better method to stopping the IE whining would be to urge them to download the Firefox browser from Mozilla. Not only would the site look right, they would have a much better and more secure browser than what Bill Gates provides them with.
Posted by: John Peter Smith at September 17, 2005 11:08 AMJust put that "too cool for IE" image back up.
That'll take care of it.
:-)
Posted by: Brian at September 17, 2005 11:37 AMJohn, I've made plenty of such arguments and appeals in the past. People who continue to use IE fall into one of the following categories: 1) don't understand or don't care about IE's weaknesses; 2) can't upgrade due to employer requirements or system constraints; 3) don't know how to upgrade. Those in the first two categories won't be swayed by my badgering, and those in #3 need some on-site handholding that I can't provide. But, to the extent I can tweak my site to accommodate them without compromising how competent browsers view the site, I'll try to do so.
Brian, I considered that, but then decided I'd be opening myself up to a false advertising claim. I don't think I'm too cool for anything! ;-)
Posted by: Eric at September 17, 2005 12:16 PMActually the blogroll looks better. Now if you could get the column back to its correct position instead of at the bottom of the page.
Posted by: shannon at September 17, 2005 07:16 PMOk I can't stop here. I seem to be feeling some flack on the IE subject. I use IE mainly because you can't use firefox with my yahoo mail account because it doesn't support html email messages. (yea i'm that picky).
But I actually don't use MSIE, I use Maxthon, an IE look-a-like with the tabbed browsing feature. All the standards and feel of IE without the overhead and tabs. It's small like firefox but works like IE.
http://www.maxthon.com (plug, plug, plug)
Shannon, your Maxthon (which I've never before heard of) doesn't behave EXACTLY like IE, because in IE 6.0 for Windows, the sidebar is positioned properly.
Posted by: Eric at September 17, 2005 07:27 PMActually, I'm not. Minding, that is.
And speaking of usability...image maps?! How quaintly 20th century! ;-)
Posted by: Eric at September 19, 2005 03:49 PMI seem to be seeing the same things as Shannon sees, but I know that my IE is a pain. I have an old copy of Firefox--I'll go upgrade it right now and try again!
Posted by: Deb Thompson at September 19, 2005 05:36 PMQuaint 20th Century image maps that work on both browsers thank you very much!
Posted by: Natalie at September 19, 2005 06:01 PM....and don't make me change your mapped image!
Posted by: Natalie at September 19, 2005 06:03 PMQuaint 20th Century image maps that work on both browsers thank you very much!
Yes, but what about those hordes of poor Lynx users! ;-)
Posted by: Eric at September 19, 2005 06:06 PMI myself have been accused of being a Lynx Horde.
I think that is what they said, anyway.
Posted by: Natalie at September 19, 2005 07:26 PMStill not good for me at work with IE 6.0.2600.0000, update version 0, 128 bit cipher strength. I'm on Windows 2000, version 5.0 (Build 2195: Service pack 4), with 261, 104 Kb available for Windows.
What flavor of Windows/IE 6 are you testing?
The blogroll is at the bottom of the blog entries, not beside the blog entries.
When galaxies collide, the blogroll goes out of whack.
Posted by: Larry S. at September 20, 2005 12:17 PMLarry, take another look and see if things are better now. As it turns out, I found a coding error [gasp!] in a post that seems to be the culprit, rather than anything amiss in the CSS.
I'm using IE 6.0.2800.1106CO running on Windows 2000 Professional.
Posted by: Eric at September 20, 2005 01:00 PMThat's good. The blogroll is in place to the right of the posts. Abbye's pictures have resumed their rightful place at the top of the column. Did she know she was temporarily at the BOTTOM of the posts? I hope she didn't have to bear the indignity, however short and only evident to the folk on IE. She uses Firefox, right?
Posted by: Larry S. at September 20, 2005 07:05 PMLarry, thanks for the confirmation. It's amazing what havoc is wreaked by one character (in this case, it was a "/" instead of a ">").
As for Abbye's choice of browser...Larry, for crying out loud, she's a dog. She can't read.
She uses JAWS. ;-)
Posted by: Eric at September 20, 2005 08:52 PM
Yes Eric is looks better!
Posted by: Bert at September 16, 2005 09:13 PM